Transcript for a2-tutorial

Astronomy to Relativity and Gravitation Electricals.0:02

Electric tutorial so-called0:12

and it's fairly three format. I never I've never convinced I0:14

have a a really good plan for what to do in this hour, but0:19

unimaginative. But I think going through a couple of the0:26

exercises in the exercise collection is probably a decent0:29

idea, if not necessarily terribly exciting one.0:33

Does anyone have any meeting suggestions for a better for0:37

better plans?0:41

Other particular areas you are particularly hoping I'll cover?0:44

Yeah, yeah, I'll certainly mention those. Yeah.0:53

In fact, let's just keep going on that.0:56

So as I1:01

mentioned in the1:04

I mentioned a couple of times1:07

and also on the on the padlet, the1:09

aims objectives are several pedagogical fashions out of1:14

date. But I find that the distinction useful.1:18

The distinction being that the aims are the point and the1:22

objectives are the accessible things.1:25

So you, you, you, you, you've seen this document, it's no you1:29

haven't seen this compendium version. But you have the the1:33

aims, objectives at the beginning of each chapter and1:37

and and I will if necessary tweak those next semester once I1:41

I start thinking about this a little bit more. But they have1:45

settled down over the last couple of years to to to what1:50

they are.1:54

The aims, as I mentioned, are the high level1:56

point of the course, but they tend to be expressed in terms of1:59

understand, appreciate, blah blah blah rather than things2:03

that you can actually put in an exam and so the objectives2:07

which roughly match. But I'm not the same thing, as the aims are2:12

the things that I think are fair game for the examiner.2:16

There's rather a long list of these. If you if you put them2:21

all together in one document that you do end up with quite a2:24

few of them. I'm not going to go through them step by step,2:26

but the reason that they're2:29

there's lots of them. It's simply because2:32

I I find it useful to,2:35

you know, concretize. What do I think is the accessible thing in2:39

this in this chapter?2:44

So, so that's why there's several of them.2:46

There's also quite a few of them to give me a little bit of scope2:49

when I'm making the exam. So these are all individually,2:52

there's too small to see, but you've got them in in in the, in2:55

the, in the notes. These are all individually quite small things.2:58

Very few of them are. Remember such and such.3:03

Basically I don't have a good memory for for, for, for, XYZI.3:06

Don't feel it's it's fair game to get you to memorise things,3:10

which I, I I wouldn't. And similarly derivations people3:14

sometimes people would like to put. It's an easy exam question,3:18

you recite the derivation of of such and such. It's not a very3:22

exciting exam question. It's not actually very useful thing to be3:26

able to do,3:30

so there aren't. There are a couple of things where I see you3:32

should be able to3:35

remember this blah blah. I think one of them is for example,3:37

to quote the expression for the scalar product between 243:42

vectors.3:45

I think you should have to do that because of heaven's sake.3:46

If you can't do that, you know that's pretty bad, but that but3:50

that should that should just come naturally in a sense,3:53

because you have used it several times in doing the exercises. So3:57

take those seriously. Things that are clearly not covered by4:00

the objectives are.4:04

I will regard it out of scope for the exam.4:07

Things which are clearly, you know covered by that I very much4:10

regarded in school for the exam4:13

Italy and it's borderline. Do feel free to ask for4:15

clarification, OK, but that that's the I I look at that when4:18

I'm when I'm making the exam.4:22

Any questions,4:26

less of them, I will. Yes. Yeah4:29

it's just duplicating what's in each chapter but I4:34

in previous years I have sometimes used slightly edited4:39

the list when making turn it into a a full document just4:41

because I I've, I've I've gone through them and thought that's4:44

not very clearly expressed or something. So I think yes, I4:47

will. I, I will put up the I can bend your version of of that and4:50

probably next around the time when you're starting to worry4:54

about you4:57

anything else on that particular topic.4:59

OK. So does that, does that answer you the question you had5:03

to some extent,5:08

Yep.5:10

OK5:14

and you were also in the lecture. That folder there is5:17

the list of all the exercises.5:21

And again this is we will, I will be going through to5:24

touching on this5:28

you the rest of the hour5:32

just to repeat myself again, the A2 tutorial handbook that's5:36

mentioned in in the Moodle includes a section on includes5:40

exercises for the vote, the four sub courses within a 2, the5:44

section of relativity. They're good exercises. They're not5:48

particularly keys to the way I've ended up doing these5:52

lectures. So when I talk about the exercises, it's these ones.5:55

I mean,5:59

OK and in6:01

it's a long story, but in previous years these exercises6:04

were included in the6:06

the lecture notes document chapters that you you downloaded6:09

and they were taken out because folks thought there were too6:13

many pages in those files and and and OK, but I think I6:17

probably should put them back in because it's a bit confusing6:20

having them separate. But you will find that document in the6:24

Election Notes folder.6:28

There are quite a few of them, as you will see if you examine6:30

it6:33

and6:34

for example.6:36

But you didn't have example. OK, it's slightly too small to see,6:42

but at the end of each of them you'll see which objectives they6:46

actually I I feel they6:51

touch on6:53

and some of them marked as slightly more difficult or6:55

slightly less difficult than than the main and some are6:58

marked as particularly useful.7:01

So this7:03

the minus is I I think that all all the quick questions they ask7:06

in the in in the lecture are D minus are particularly easy7:10

ones. The one at the top there is a hard one and so on. So7:14

that's what that notation means in case you're thinking of what7:18

wants to select7:22

and7:27

neither the the the the the total exercise vary quite a lot7:30

they from from very simple very simple things just like the7:35

quick questions in the lectures to things which are quite7:38

thoughtful and we'll we'll we'll have you puzzling over them for7:41

an afternoon. So there's quite a lot of variation in those. So7:44

those really aren't. I mean, that's a good question. Those7:47

are are are a poor guide to what's in the in a test or an7:50

exam7:53

because some of them are7:54

yeah. The the the fairly variable and and and and and.7:58

Next next semester I will post a a documentary includes notes on8:01

the on on solutions of them.8:06

I don't do that in the first semester because reasons, but I8:08

I will post an answer. This and some of some of those notes are8:11

like a couple of lines. Some of them are are extensive8:15

discussion of of of the of the point.8:18

So as usual the best guide to what's in the class test or8:21

exams or the like is previously previous papers as usual and8:24

those tend to have when I'm marking them. I tend to write8:28

notes about what people did and what people the the various8:32

things that odd things people and put when answering questions8:36

and to those those notes and fairly chatty for past papers8:40

for the relative reputation stuff. And those are much longer8:44

than would be model model answers.8:48

They tend to be as they chatty or anything else. So. So that's8:51

I'm talking too much.8:56

I thought of a couple of these exercises which it would be9:01

useful to go through9:05

slowly now. Can I get rid of this9:09

thing on the right? Probably not,9:12

you know, a bit bigger,9:15

I think. I thought of9:17

Access 4.7.9:20

OK,9:27

this is quite a nice exercise. Let's see if we can make that a9:29

bit bigger still.9:32

Is excess 4.79:40

caught Mcrae's?9:43

And this is the real thing? This isn't just a I mean, I mean that9:45

thing is a real bit of of observational particle physics.9:48

If you like9:51

quick raise from the top of the atmosphere, collide with it and9:52

it just shows of elementary particles, there's this happens.9:56

So, companies9:60

coming from the cosmos.10:01

Mysterious source.10:04

We showed them elementary particles including10:06

a variety of exotic particles and all ones that reached the10:10

ground are muons, which are sort of heavy electron,10:14

which are unstable and decay with a half life of of 2.210:17

microseconds.10:21

And they're the troubling relativistic speeds because the10:27

Cosby rates at the atmosphere at very high speeds at at ultra10:30

relativistic speeds. So the muons are moving at similarly at10:34

relativistic speeds.10:38

And the majority of the of the muons that are produced behind10:40

the atmosphere reach the ground10:43

to produce interesting. And you and you can you can test that10:46

you can observe that by observing the the Muon flux at10:50

altitude on top of the mountain and the ground level and it it10:53

all matches up. So, so, so this is happening.10:56

So supposing that these muons are created at a nominal height10:60

of 15 kilometres currently, how long it takes them to reach the11:03

ground in the earth frame giving the answer in seconds and then11:08

half lives.11:12

So this is setting up our our11:13

leading you through as as solving this.11:17

So what I will do therefore is. I think it's11:21

and this one which is the one which is on the E360 rather11:25

unfortunately would be better than the other one. Could you11:29

could talk on the on my left knee that adequately here.11:33

OK. Then11:38

what can do is we can talk about11:40

no.11:43

Can we see that11:46

you only just11:49

So where are we? We have, we have our11:57

an altitude of 15,12:01

there's metres12:07

we have.12:08

Uh,12:13

well, we want to know how long it takes to reach the ground. So12:16

what speed are these? Are these moving at12:20

anyone12:25

speed of light? Yes.12:27

So you could work out exactly how fast the moving given the12:29

gamma factor of or 40. But it's going to be so close to the12:32

speed of light it makes no difference.12:34

So you would just use the speed of light12:37

I at their speed. So.12:39

So there's no need for excess precision and a complicated12:44

calculation to try and turn gamma equals 40 into A into a12:48

very precise value.12:51

Because your teams tend to the13:02

8 metres per second and I'm using physical units here rather13:06

than natural natural units. Because the the question is13:10

being framed in terms of of physical units. And the answer13:14

I'm looking for is in terms of seconds and half lives and so13:18

on. So there's no need to put any other complications there.13:22

They're travelling a distance of 15,015 thousand metres in at at13:26

a speed of of that. So the the time is equal to.13:30

This has been a time13:35

H over13:38

V is going to be 15,13:40

metres13:46

over the times 10 to the eight13:47

which is second and I'm being careful to put in the units and13:52

I'm looking at that and going yes, I have that, that those13:54

units cancel and give seconds. So I I do have that the right13:57

way up.14:00

And it's all the one of the reasons why you always put in14:01

units for a numerical calculation is because that14:04

means you can check that the units end up the right way up.14:07

Because that's an easy, cheap check that you haven't made14:10

some, you know, silly mistake and got things upside down.14:13

I would then 15 / 3 is 510 to 3 -. 10 to the eight is 5 * 10 to14:18

the minus14:25

31885. It's 5 * 10 to the minus14:28

seconds.14:35

Unless anyone is going to disagree with that,14:37

which is14:41

microseconds.14:44

And the half life is 2.2 microseconds, so that you know I14:46

divide that one by the other, giving 22 point, 22.714:52

T half14:59

and15:01

so I've done. There's no relativity here,15:03

I've just done this is the Speed Times thing.15:07

I'm being reasonably careful about this. I I think if this15:11

were an assignment I'd I would make a stomach for a copy of15:15

this before submitting it, but I'm being fairly systematic15:18

about going about going through this. Good, so A is done and we15:21

haven't had to think very hard, which is always very nice.15:25

Calculate how long it takes the muons to reach earth in the15:30

muons frame, giving the answer again in.15:34

Seconds and half likes.15:39

Now why does it see in the muons stream?15:41

Yeah,15:46

Temperance transformation15:49

mostly right.15:51

You don't have to use the range transformation because it's just15:53

a matter of time dilation. So you can just use the time15:56

dilation formula.15:59

So, and I think that that's a a good point to emphasise, you16:01

don't always have to use the right transformation16:04

equation, and when you're doing these sort of calculations16:09

you'll end up using a mixture of the transformation, time16:12

dilation, length, contraction distance and speed times time16:15

in using the right the right thing at the right time. So in16:20

this case the question is asking that's time of 50 microseconds.16:24

What? So between the Muon hitting the top of the16:29

atmosphere and the Muon hitting the ground takes 50 microseconds16:33

in the Earth frame.16:38

What is the separation between those two events in the new on16:40

stream? And you could set it up with the answer that the answer16:43

is not wrong,16:45

but you'd be making it hard for yourself because then you'd have16:47

to think OK, what are the events, but you know and write16:49

things down and then go turn the handle and get the answer. You16:51

can just leap straight to the answer by going time relate.16:54

How do you work out the the time in the beyond stream?16:58

Why? Why over gamma?17:07

That that's right. And and in a sense the the slightly cheating17:16

answer is say because we expect it to be smaller17:19

because you can remember L naughty L = L naughty over gamma17:22

or lol or gamma times laughter, whichever. Whichever one it is.17:27

I I can't remember which way up it is, but I know the lengths17:32

contract17:36

that moving, moving, moving, moving length, moving rod gets17:38

shorter, eventually shorter, and that time dilates.17:42

So that in this case I expect to um17:46

that the answer in the burn frame to be to be less so I know17:50

I'm gonna I'm gonna have to divide by gamma. So that's17:53

that's a bit like cheating but it's it's quite legitimate17:56

because you are thinking through that that that you know what17:60

physical answer you should get which is a lot smaller and so18:03

you know where to multiply or divide. So I think for for this,18:06

for Part B18:11

and18:13

this time,18:24

and18:36

let's rate, I'm going to jump back a bit and say that's that18:40

That's time18:44

T prime equals to T over gamma equal to.18:48

Did prime equal to over gamma18:55

equals.18:58

With 5019:00

microseconds19:02

over, we were told the camera was 40,19:04

which is equal to19:08

1.2519:10

microseconds.19:13

A question there19:14

and frame travelling at the speed of light. No the frame.19:19

The frame isn't travelling at the speed of light but we're19:22

this this is as I'm making a central approximation so so the19:27

muestrame isn't at the spiral light. When we were working19:31

doing the calculation, the numerical calculation that19:34

worked out what the the time elapsed time was we thought we19:37

might as well take it to be special late because the19:40

difference from that is going to be ignorable. If we're talking19:43

about two significant figures in the in in the nominal height19:46

then it doesn't matter. So I think that that that's being19:50

applying a bit of physical common sense in important19:53

number. Should we pick if we did it19:56

this exact way and went from gamma equals 40 to V equals?19:58

2.9978 whatever. Then we would be injecting spurious accuracy.20:04

So, so, so, so, so, so yes, the mainstream isn't moving at the20:08

speed of light, but we can take it to be for medical purposes.20:12

OK. Sorry, do you? Yes,20:19

due to time dilation, whenever I'm writing carefully, there's20:23

never enough time to write carefully. But due to time20:26

relation, less time would pass in the nuance frame. Thus time T20:30

prime equals T over gamma.20:33

So although I said20:37

that we know the number of good has got to get smaller,20:41

therefore we divide, I don't write that down.20:44

What I write down is an explanation which which20:47

indicates that I have a clue20:50

that I understand what what what's happening here and you20:52

know, write it the right way around. OK, so I could give a20:57

more elaborate explanation in terms of I could, I could, I21:01

could write pages on that I'm sure, but I've written down21:05

enough to make it clear to the person marking this what21:09

that I understand what's happened.21:14

OK, because the the, the, the secret with all exams and it21:17

took me, I I never worked this out. When I was an21:20

undergraduate, I never really realised that the people marking21:23

my exams were the people teaching21:27

and the humans teaching them. And there was a human sitting21:30

there in the dark of the night, slogging through my, my, my exam21:33

papers. Because if I had, I realised that the point the way21:36

you do an exam is you're talking to someone,21:40

you're talking to him and saying look, I'm clever,21:43

bear that in mind. And so this due to time dilation less time21:47

would be would pass in the millions frame. That's saying I21:51

have a clue.21:55

OK, so bear that in mind.21:56

You don't have right? You don't have to write an epic, but you21:59

have to write something. So. So just writing down t = 2 over22:02

gamma T frame equal to over gamma would not get marked as22:05

far as I'm concerned.22:08

Just quoting the answer and jumping straight there wouldn't22:09

get marked. You have to have something in there which says I22:12

have a clue.22:15

OK.22:17

That by the way is my nature handwriting22:19

part C and we've done it in ah yeah I need a lost a mark22:24

I I failed to read the question and I failed to to to to write22:30

down that that was what the number I have is 0.5722:35

0.57 half lives.22:47

That was a free market nearly missed. Read the question.22:50

OK, so we've done I I just checked and we have done Part B.22:58

Now23:01

which part C23:02

can this be regarded as a test of special relativity?23:04

What's the answer to that?23:08

I mean, yes, yeah, yeah, but why? Why is it special?23:16

That's it. Yeah. So so the the mere fact that the, the the23:25

that the the naive calculation in part a is saying it takes the23:32

muons 22 half lives to get to earth23:37

means that the number of muons that you get to get to Earth23:41

would be 1 / 2 to the 2223:44

of the number that were at the end of the atmosphere. So almost23:47

none.23:50

So the the mere fact that, as the question said, most of the23:52

muons arrive at Earth is telling you that the explanation that23:55

you would that you would naively jump to from the calculation23:59

part A can't be right.24:03

And the explanation that if there's less than one half life24:05

in the Muon frame, it takes less than one half life in the muons24:09

frame to get down to earth makes it perfectly reasonable that24:14

most of the muons make it to Earth.24:18

So the question then is how do I write that down in one sentence?24:21

I don't have to write a book here, I can just write down24:25

something like.24:28

How do I freeze it24:31

if24:36

the muons24:38

actually24:40

it took 2224:44

half24:48

lives to reach24:49

F24:53

capital E24:57

and25:00

almost25:02

none25:05

would arrive25:07

observationally,25:10

most25:16

so25:19

much less25:23

time than25:26

half life25:30

would25:33

pass.25:34

I am just getting really messy. Sorry about that,25:35

Beyoncé.25:39

And you're not here to watch me, right? Slowly. As you. Slowly.25:42

Neatly. But25:45

right now that's not quite enough,25:49

because I haven't said I haven't mentioned the word special25:52

relativity in that sentence yet.25:54

How do I inject that?26:02

Only special relativity26:07

provides26:11

this explanation,26:13

right? What I've written down there is,26:19

but that's gone off the bottom.26:23

If the muons actually took 20 to half life to reach the Earth,26:32

almost none would arrive. Observationally, I am linking it26:35

to the question.26:38

Most do so much less time than 1/2 life must would pass in the26:40

muons frame. Only Sr provides this explanation and I should26:44

probably therefore this confirms this corroborates Sr.26:48

SO26:52

I I think if I were about to submit that as as assessment I26:54

would go back over that and thinking of I can reword that26:57

bit a bit a little bit better. But the key points are I have27:01

mentioned I I haven't just. I haven't stopped at the first27:04

sentence there. I linked it to the question I I looked at what27:07

I was actually asked to see27:11

and I I I I made some sort of link to that. I said27:13

observationally, most do that. That's the thing that is that is27:17

the key thing.27:21

And is this a taste of special relativity27:23

such sentence? Yes it is basically. I could freeze that27:26

better, but but, but but the, the, the, the. The point is to27:28

read the question and make sure you actually do answer it.27:31

If you haven't written a lot, I would27:36

tater that little bit in in wording terms to to, to to to to27:39

work an assessment. There's less time, of course, and exams, but27:43

the the, the, the goal of the scene,27:49

OK,27:52

you have it.27:54

No?27:56

In the frame of the muons, the Earth is moving towards them at27:58

approximately the speed of light.28:01

Calculate the distance between the altitude of which the under28:04

created and the surface of the earth in the Muon frame and thus28:07

how long it takes for the mules to traverse it. Give you answers28:10

again in seconds and half lives. So what's happening here? What28:13

am I asking you to do28:16

that students?28:19

That's right.28:21

Length contraction. Yeah, length contraction is the key thing.28:22

So the in the burns frame the distance from the top of the28:27

atmosphere to the bottom is much less than 15,000 metres. By how28:31

much less? By that divided by a factor of of gamma.28:35

So I have to indicate that I understand this. So28:41

in the bum stream,28:48

the atmosphere28:58

is length.29:03

Yeah,29:05

by our factor of gamma.29:09

Thus29:15

each prime equals H over29:18

gamma equals 1529:20

those metres29:25

over29:27

40, which is a less pretty number. What number do they cope29:28

with? That should be the 105 metres29:32

and29:38

in the UMM stream.29:43

OK29:46

Do I stop there? No, I do not. The question didn't ask me how29:48

he took asked me to do that, but it also said and thus how long29:52

it takes the means to traverse it.29:55

What speed is the Earth moving at in the beyond stream?29:59

Should be like, yes. So the time it takes for the Earth to travel30:03

305 metres in the Muon stream.30:08

Yeah,30:11

travels with each prime30:17

at30:21

speech C in time30:23

T Prime equals distance is speed.30:27

It's each frame over C which is 3 and 7530:32

metres30:36

times 10 to the eight metres per second30:39

because because that turned the number of seconds. That's good.30:42

I've got something done stupid to put that upside down which is30:46

equal to30:50

and that is equal to 0 point 1.25 microseconds30:53

which is equal to 0 point31:01

57T half. And I have remembered that I'm being asked for it to31:04

put this in seconds and in microseconds and and in in31:08

seconds and in numbers of half lives,31:12

have I done everything? How long it takes for years, right? Yes,31:18

in second-half. Yes, I've done that. So I have. I've done31:21

answered the quest31:23

good. No last bit31:25

E31:31

comment on the equality or inequality of your answers to31:32

Part B and and D31:37

No comment is a keyword that there There are numerous31:40

keywords in exams.31:44

One of the very important ones is write down. If you're asked31:46

to write down something, it means you know this. You don't31:50

need any explanation. It means that it's trivial to to just put31:53

on paper, but you'll be asked to write down. So write down is a31:57

keyword. It's just I'm not expecting you to to explain32:01

this. You don't have to explain this32:04

comment is another keyword for exams. It means say something32:08

intelligent about.32:11

So what is being?32:14

What is it you're supposed to notice about the answers to part32:17

B&D?32:20

The equal Yeah.32:24

So32:26

the the time it takes for the Muon to get from the top of the32:27

atmosphere to the bottom in the Muon frame. So the amount of32:31

time it's got to decay32:35

and the amount of time it takes for the Earth to get from32:37

1500 metres away to to32:41

to the the the thickness of the atmosphere and the muons frame32:46

is such that it takes only only that that time to get all the32:49

way through it are the same.32:53

If you just write down the other seam, I'll write down the seam32:56

and33:01

answer this. No, that's good. Correct tick.33:09

Not, not all the marks, because I haven't said what's33:12

interesting about that33:15

and and and there's a couple of things I could write down there.33:18

A sensible thing would be,33:22

um to note that33:24

and calculations in different frames must agree33:29

the they have different explanations. In one case the33:34

the time it the the the the the muellers clocks are being slowed33:37

down because of time relation. In the other case, the33:41

atmosphere is being compressed because of length contraction.33:45

Different explanations which which come to the same33:49

the same result.33:54

Uh,33:57

Calculations33:59

India.34:02

Different frames34:04

of degree.34:07

And I think if if I were writing an assignment, I would, you34:11

know, obsessed a little bit about how to frame how to freeze34:15

that. In writing that in an exam, I'd make sure I say34:18

something like that, but not. I wouldn't obsess about it.34:21

OK.34:25

You know, you can see that in the.34:28

In the question I said comment on the equality or inequality of34:33

your answers to part B&D.34:35

So I say hey, I I have been deliberately vague about whether34:37

I whether those answers should be the same. Of course they34:41

should be the same. But see, one way or another you34:45

go different answers for those two for what would be and D34:49

Perhaps just your arithmetics poor. OK,34:53

so you so you think of that. Are you think? Should I have got the34:57

same? Should they be the same?34:60

Are they interestingly different? Or have I just made a35:02

mistake35:05

and you think about that, and you might be that you conclude35:06

these should be the same.35:09

I made a mistake.35:11

That's fine. You write down these are different but they35:13

should be the same because blah blah gives us an excellent35:17

explanation35:20

because that shows me you have a clue35:22

and that's a general thing. In exams if things have gone all35:24

out of port and you you, you, you realise you've written down35:27

rubbish. You, you, you're the answer, you've written. Your35:30

writing down is is wrong. Can't be right,35:33

then see through. Don't just have a panic attack and score at35:36

the last five pages of of your exam exam question. See, this35:39

can't be right because35:43

because if you if you're if the person making it sees that35:45

you're thinking about this and that you you know what the35:48

answer should be, roughly, and that you give a a reasonable35:51

explanation for why it can't be right,35:54

then OK, you lose some marks for whatever, whatever mistake it35:57

was. But you'll get some marks. They'll find some marks for you.36:00

For you being switched on enough to know this is this is clearly36:04

wrong36:08

for this intelligent reason.36:09

So remember that36:11

again talk to your mother36:14

so that that's why I, you know the the order inequality is36:19

there just in case36:23

you said you retain the fact of the question but the the comment36:25

that you had to it can be various.36:31

So that's quite a a I think that was that was A36:35

and I think assignment one or something a few years ago. So36:40

that's that's a sort of Simon type question rather than exam36:44

type question. So. So they're not very good guide to exam36:47

things but I think it's a nice question to pick here because it36:50

covers quite a lot of things And interestingly this is from36:54

Chapter 4 so it's before the Lorentz transformation. So we36:57

haven't had to use the range transformation at all in this37:00

one. We just had to think about what's happening here just to37:04

speed times time length contraction time relation and37:07

and so on.37:10

So the more elaborate version of that we we we could ask but you37:11

don't have to use as I I think I said at one point that all37:15

relatively exam questions are the same, but just you know here37:19

are some numbers use the rent transformation to them from one37:23

frame to another. That's not actually true as you can see,37:27

but it's just that the range transformation is a nice37:30

straightforward way of37:34

doing this sort of calculate37:36

and that I meant that to take about 20 minutes, 25 minutes37:40

rather than37:43

I was chatting a lot at the begin.37:45

Other questions about that37:48

OK,37:53

Is that reassuring or terrifying or or,37:54

you know,38:00

are you happy?38:01

Actually rather 4 miles there.38:06

OK38:11

and38:13

OK, let's try another one. Um,38:16

is it the other quite nice one?38:19

The traditional traffic lights for example,38:24

so 61538:32

OK,38:50

you're driving towards some traffic lights38:51

showing red38:54

and and no one will wavelength there.38:56

How fast do you have to be driving through a Doppler?38:58

Shifted enough that they appear to be green39:01

normal wavelength,39:04

and the question gives hints on how to how to approach this.39:06

OK, So what this is. This is a question about the Doppler39:11

shift. Obviously39:16

A39:18

SO 614.39:21

So here, what with with most of the of the39:31

questions about the Doppler shift,39:37

the question the the The challenge with them is always39:40

basically the same.39:44

Try not to get confused with which frame you're talking about39:46

and don't lose track of maintains,39:48

because you'll always end up having to think in which we're39:51

under my pointing here and it. Therefore, this is one of the39:55

cases where it's very important to be very clear about what is39:59

what moving what direction in which frame.40:03

So40:06

frame,40:09

yes.40:12

Yeah,40:13

Fear of Lights.40:18

S Prime is the40:20

with the car.40:25

OK, I'll write it down40:26

straightforwardly,40:29

and let's say we have and in this case we. I think we want a40:31

diagram.40:35

So this is,40:38

yes, Prime40:40

and we're moving towards40:42

some traffic lights,40:46

yeah.40:48

And here I'm40:51

this is, I mean Koski diagram. It's just as an ex Y diagram40:54

but I'm writing I'm I'm writing down that this is moving at40:59

speed V41:03

towards the right.41:05

OK,41:06

just because I'll mess up the minus signs otherwise.41:08

And41:13

in the frame of the traffic lights,41:14

the41:19

has41:23

if you can see F equals, we said 600 metres.41:26

No it doesn't. It doesn't.41:36

It has frequency Lambda equals 600,41:39

90 metres. One year I actually41:44

wrote and distributed and people sat the exam in which I wrote41:49

and I talked about frequency of 600 nanometers and no one41:53

noticed. I didn't notice. The internal checkers didn't notice.41:56

None of the students noticed because they were. They somehow41:60

magically fixed it in their heads. But it was slightly42:03

embarrassing, but42:06

easier than you think to do42:09

anyway. So frequency, wavelength, Wavelength is42:12

different frequency as you learned in first year and our42:14

wavelength is 600 metres.42:17

And42:20

what do we have to the the, the42:23

in?42:27

It's primed42:29

observed at42:31

Lambda prime which we don't know.42:34

Ohh no, we do not equal 60042:39

500 nanometers. Ohh, numbers42:43

500 nanometers. OK, So what do we have to play with here? What?42:50

What do we know about the Doppler shift? What we can do is42:54

we can jump back to.42:59

We'll scan through our notes here and and and and recall43:02

we have an expression43:06

Lake43:09

UH43:11

from Notes F primed.43:15

You know F43:19

equals F primed43:21

gamma43:23

one plus43:25

Cos Theta V Cos Theta.43:27

OK, now did that help us?43:36

It does because it has43:39

F&F prime unit which can be proxy for V and for Lambda and43:43

Lambda prime. We're going to think about that,43:47

and it has43:51

the speed V which is what we're trying to find out here,43:52

so we don't. So this is a case where we're doing the Doppler43:56

effect backwards, trying to find V given the change in frequency,43:59

and it's got this angle Theta frame.44:02

But what is Theta framed? A question.44:05

Yes. If this were an exam question I would give that I44:11

would give you that formula. Yeah. Because I I I wouldn't44:14

expect you to That's one of the. I mean I think yeah I wouldn't44:17

expect to memorise that partly because I don't think memorising44:20

is terribly useful but also because it would it would be it44:24

would be just so easy to get a frame with the wrong place and44:27

and and scupper the whole question. So I think if if we're44:30

an an exam question44:34

I would either give it in the question or since last year the44:36

question is the the question papers have been redesigned to.44:39

There's a crib at the at the beginning, so there might be a44:42

crib at the beginning of the of the of the paper which is just a44:45

list of of equations with no context, no explanation of what44:49

other symbols mean. Is just that that that that list there simply44:52

so that you you can spot which one of the is the one with all44:55

the primes in the right place.44:58

So that would be quite memory. Well, running time almost.45:01

But then what do you see? The frame here,45:07

and this is the other bit that that that all of the Doppler45:09

shift questions are all always getting you know our our45:13

testing, what direction are we talking about here45:16

and here the45:20

the, the the the directions are in the45:25

XY plane45:28

of the of the street or of the car or whatever. And the45:30

question is, in what direction in this plane is this light45:33

moving?45:37

OK,45:39

So what direction is the light moving?45:40

What? What?45:43

That's right? So Theta prime is45:45

new pie.45:48

Yes. And that's and that's and that's the thing that what all45:51

these doctors your questions are are are testing but can you tell45:54

the difference 0 and π45:57

and in this case the lights moving towards you so the light45:60

coming from the traffic light46:03

to the driver is moving46:06

in the negative X direction46:08

so Theta prime so so and and that's true in in both frames46:11

but we'll be but this requires in the in the car drivers frame46:15

what directions are moving in is moving in the direction opposite46:18

to the X prime X prime axis. So the light is moving in direction46:22

theatre frame.46:25

Yeah,46:27

Light moving46:28

at Peter Prime46:31

equals π,46:34

so46:37

F = F prime gamma 1 -, V46:39

OK,46:47

so the46:48

and46:52

this would be good progress here.46:53

We can rewrite that as F / F prime equals gamma 1 minus46:56

V47:03

and uh47:06

the the the the the question hints at. Right. Row equals F47:08

primed over F, which is also Lambda over47:13

Lambda prime either way up. So I'm I'm rushing slightly could47:18

at the end here but this I think this would not be a a terrific47:22

exam question because it requires you going back at you47:26

you're thinking a little bit more carefully and going back I47:29

think I've got that upside down and and so on so that there's47:32

there's too many hostages to fortune for like this to be a47:36

good exam question basically a very nice assessment question or47:39

excess question. So I'm going to47:43

skip a little bit47:46

and and and and and. Note that at this point we've essentially47:48

done all our work.47:51

We've got47:53

F / F prime,47:55

which we know. We know that from from the the the data given in47:56

the question we've got something on the right hand side which is48:00

depends on on V So this is one over rho squared equals 1 -, v48:10

^2 / 1 -, v ^2.48:17

And then it's just a bit of algebra48:21

to turn.48:24

I mean you know not trivial but not really hard to to to to48:29

invert that and turn that from role as a function of V into V48:32

as a function of row.48:36

We rearrange it and then you could you you discover what V is48:38

as a function of the role which you know is a six fifths blah48:42

blah. Turn the handle and you get a speed which is I think48:47

eleven 6080 / 81 disputed later, which is very fast.48:51

So48:56

I'll stop talking in just one moment. I'll point out that yes,48:57

that's not a terrific exam question, but it's quite a good49:00

exercise and quite assignment, and that it involves first49:03

writing down what you know from the note and then thinking49:07

carefully about what the what the symbols mean and not get and49:10

and and watching your mind sings49:13

so good they have only two more lectures to go and then at the49:17

end of the49:21