Transcript for a2-l07

Welcome, Richard. 7. This is the We'll finish off Chapter 5. This0:10

time0:16

would allow us to go into chapter six and seven, which are0:17

the more dynamical bits of the of the material. And they will.0:21

I hope to get them onto the Moodle today, but they'll appear0:26

this afternoon. I expect0:30

the couple of things I want to mention0:34

which I I think I may have pointed out in the0:38

in the in the forum posting. One is0:44

in the middle. There's a link to a previous years I think a0:50

couple of years ago,0:54

and I I say with one,0:58

so not this year. Previous years, good one to go to work1:01

through because you can do everything in there you can do1:05

at present. But the thing that I wanted to draw your attention to1:09

was that although the notes of the bottom of that have fairly1:13

discursive extra commentary on on the answer and so on, there's1:18

also a handwritten version. Might I I did a I I wrote out by1:22

hand what would be a great answer. The sort of thing I1:26

would be happy at 2:00 in the morning to see popping up next1:30

on my screen1:34

and that would go, yeah, that's gonna be 16 or 16 but you've got1:35

about reading it right. So that's what you want. That's the1:38

sort of thing you want to to to be handing in. Now the important1:41

points as I as I mentioned in in the model posting,1:44

it's legible. It's OK. My handwriting isn't necessarily1:47

the most beautiful, but it's it It. I can read it. If you if you1:51

want to make a tight version, that's good too. What it's not1:55

is photograph or scribbles on your notebook. It's not a mess.1:59

It doesn't have to be beautiful. There's a couple of crossings2:03

out in here. Bit of Tippex wouldn't have done any harm, but2:07

it's not necessary. It is considered. It's a fair copy.2:10

This is not your first grasping as a solution. It's a2:14

is a a thoughtful description of what the answer is.2:18

I I had a little comments to this. You know why such and such2:25

is a good thing to see in the answer. I encourage you to look2:28

through that. That's what the sort of thing that it is good to2:32

see in assessment. If it's not, if it's a mess, then there will2:35

marks off2:39

because this is part. This is not just an assessment. This is2:41

part of the trading for scientific communication,2:43

writing papers. If you ever you end up in research, writing2:46

academic people to put in by your colleagues.2:50

Papers are there to communicate. They are there to show how an2:53

idea goes from the basic idea of what the what. The point of this2:57

is what the idea was, how it works out, what we discovered.3:01

You know there's a structure, academic papers and you're3:05

learning that in for example, your lab report. They are also3:09

an exercise in scientific communication. And all this is3:12

not a paper. It's the same rules apply. It's what I'm3:16

communicating. Who am I communicating to and how do I3:19

make it clear what I what? I think3:23

Remember that the point of initial assessment on an exam is3:26

to show that you are smart and you have a clue one way or3:30

another. If you can communicate that, then then marks will be3:33

found. If something's ambiguous in the question, then see. This3:37

seems ambiguous to me because A or B and that's why you have a3:42

clue. OK, so if some were ambiguous, you pick one of the3:46

two and answer that question and that's fine.3:49

They're not supposed to be ambiguous. But sometimes I think3:53

it's to get you through that way. So study that3:56

and remember the point is communication and and I think I3:59

think I mentioned at the end of the4:02

but her posting was4:05

the main set to be in4:08

writing an answer like this. I see one of your colleagues in4:10

the class said, I have no idea what's going on with this4:14

question. I'm I'm,4:17

I don't know which to start.4:19

What would you write to them? Someone who'd been to the4:21

lectures, bit confused. How would you make clear to them how4:24

you've understood it? They would help them. So that's the that's4:27

the level you're for. You're not really talking to me, You're4:31

talking to one of your colleagues and that's the amount4:34

of detail you need to include and exclude. You don't have to4:37

see what relativity is. Your colleagues know that you don't4:40

have to, but it's not. It's not telegraphic.4:43

I could go on and on about that because4:47

could be resistant to writing things down. I think that in in4:51

schools, people are encouraged filling the boxes.4:54

Would that be right? Yeah, bad habit4:58

to do that. Teachers should be banned for telling people to do5:01

that. I mean, maybe it works for for schools have assessments,5:04

but it doesn't work for higher education assessments.5:06

Next thing I want to mention is5:11

the padlet.5:16

Now there is a link to5:18

to this on the5:21

on the middle5:23

is a great this is a useful place, which I think I didn't I5:25

I didn't emphasise the very first lecture because it didn't5:29

seem to work in Chrome on this, on this machine, whatever you5:32

could. I was a human.5:36

Anyway, that The thing is, there is a very useful resource, a5:38

very good place to ask.5:41

Ask questions. I've created it. A couple of folk already mailed5:43

me with questions, with good questions, excellent questions,5:46

and I've created it with a couple of those questions and5:50

the answers I gave. There's section for each of the5:52

chapters, just double click somewhere in the right sort of5:55

place, type in your question, and I don't get alerted from5:58

something appears there, but I do try and remember to look6:01

there from time to time. So it's not the fastest way of anything,6:04

but has the advantage that everyone else sees. Oh, that's6:07

good. I wish I'd asked that question.6:10

Or I'm glad someone else asked that quest.6:12

You can do a service to your colleagues by asking clever6:15

questions. No, no, no, no. Not by asking clever questions. By6:18

asking a question that is a problem for you6:21

because it's probably a problem for someone else as well,6:25

I could talk on, I could blither on this in moderation6:28

definitely. I will now close down that window. Just6:31

illustrate, there are6:34

more chapters to come6:36

and I will close down that6:38

and go to here and click window.6:43

You.6:48

Yeah. OK,6:52

where we got to last time?6:54

What we got last time was talking about the6:57

that, the, the range transformation and a little more7:02

beyond that7:04

and it's taken us 5 chapters to get to this.7:07

Now you will remember that you did a bit of special activity in7:11

Physics one last year.7:15

She doesn't. Vague, sort of slightly nervous noddings. There7:17

you did, I think you did in two lectures.7:20

You can get to this really promptly from a standing start7:25

and you can you can see and the twins paradox exists, blah blah7:28

blah. But I don't think you can actually understand much in just7:32

two lectures. So what we've done in this, what I've done in in7:35

this route I've taken you to get to7:39

the Reformation is really roundabout route, which goes via7:41

rethink about the axioms, goes to rethinking about lengths and7:45

times,7:48

goes to thinking about Mikulski diagrams,7:50

goes to thinking about space-time and geometry. And7:54

then7:57

this pops out in a fairly natural way. I hope. I mean,7:58

what would, the last time I hope made this make give this a8:02

certain inevitability?8:05

So that's why we're only getting to this now.8:08

But the transformations are, in a sense, the core tool,8:10

oh oh oh of of relativity. That expresses the whole, the8:14

relationship between a moving and a stationary frame.8:17

And the what we're going to talk about this time is two or three8:21

of the peculiar consequences of of this8:26

and we're going to go on to next time is how do we in the context8:32

of relativity topic kinematics, how do we describe motion8:36

And after that dynamics, how do we explain motion in relativity8:40

context because at that point we can talk about those things in a8:43

sensible way with this mathematical tool.8:47

So this is not dilly dally. We talked about the velocity8:50

transformation,8:54

think Minkowski in 1908. So this was only three years after I8:56

said thank you 5 paper. Very quickly this became ohh. That's8:60

obviously the way of doing things.9:03

Um, I talked briefly about I I didn't work through this example9:07

because it's quite long.9:12

We should have. But I I encourage you, I'll point you9:16

towards the section of the notes to to really think through that.9:19

It's a useful what example to go through step by step and make9:22

things so the next with the watch talk about is kind of the9:26

paradoxes or special relativity. Now the word paradox means a9:29

couple of different things in different contexts,9:32

say contradictory things.9:36

But what I am taking paradox to mean that what it's useful sense9:38

of of that is a scenario which appears to be wrong, appears to9:42

be self contradictory but has not been working out why we're9:47

the contract. By looking closely where the contraction appears to9:51

be working, be precise for the contract appears to be, and9:55

discovering why there isn't in fact a contradiction, you end up9:59

with being propelled into thinking about the the structure10:03

of what you're learning about. Paradox is in the sense in the10:07

presence I'm referring to them are things which sound wrong but10:11

aren't10:16

OK, and the best known of them is called the twins paradox.10:17

You probably heard about this from you in popular coach10:22

relativity or on TV programmes or whatever. It's simple but it10:25

has caused more not a noisier and more fundamental10:29

disagreements about relativity over the last 100 years, but10:32

people who sometimes ought to know better.10:35

So first a non relativistic version.10:40

But if she is10:45

leaving, Troy battles, guard was to go home, get a cup of tea,10:46

heads off toward Ithaca across the Mediterranean, right in a10:50

straight line, because he has a clue.10:54

He gets from trying to Ithaca.10:58

Problem solved. That's what actually happens. He takes a10:60

detour11:03

and goes ticket dog leg route from Brightcove here. Yes, I11:04

see. Now which takes longer? Which of these roots is the11:07

longer, the longer route,11:11

the dog? The dog later, Yes. So very obviously there's nothing11:16

complicated here going going that the indirect route is11:20

longer11:23

if you if you don't on the on the same with Misery and touring11:24

this Taffrail log behind him, this little propeller, it will11:27

turn more times. If he goes the indirect route, then you go the11:30

direct route.11:33

No problem11:35

right now as imagine11:36

a species version of that we're at this time. Odyssey stayed at11:40

home and Penelope heads off to a star which is 25 light years11:45

away at half speed, right. Turns around, comes back,11:49

ends up back at Earth.11:54

OK, that's our dog legroom.11:56

No11:59

penalty. Is travelling at hospital late12:01

and that's a gamma of I think 1.15, so you know, a bit more12:04

than one.12:08

So12:11

Oh yes, yes, watching this or people or people in Odysseus12:13

frame watching this will see Penelope's clocks run slow.12:17

Let's take more bass going out and coming back. So in both12:21

cases Penelope clocks are running slow and and so Penelope12:25

is younger12:29

when they're just use where did you get the twins? That's what12:31

they call the twin paradox is younger than Odysseus. When she12:36

gets back back home to earth12:40

and V equals half Gamma is 1.15. She is 87 years old when12:43

Odysseus has aged 100 years because it takes 100 years going12:47

hospital like 25 years out, 25 years back, whole thing 50 years12:51

there, 50 years back, 100 years. So that 100 years is why that's12:55

that's why that's 100 years.12:59

OK, no problem. That's nice and straightforward. Now you13:02

understand about relativity and time relation, that's not a13:05

problem,13:07

but then some breaks, Park says. Ohh, but from from Penelope's13:09

point of view,13:12

it's audacity is moving.13:13

He's moving half of late in in in between, which is true.13:15

So this is a clock will be running slow13:20

on the way out and the same is true on the way back13:24

through this year. It's got running slow so but then finally13:28

gets back home. It'll be he'll be 100 years old and it'll be or13:32

some some age. And it's13:36

Odysseus who were younger than her.13:39

And that's a problem because while it's while two people in13:42

different frames can measure the length of a of a clock of of of13:46

of a of a rod,13:49

and they mutually measure each other's roads to be shorter,13:51

like let's length contracted. And we discussed in chapter13:54

three, I think it was whenever it was13:57

that that that's not a problem big partly because you're14:00

talking about extended things. And in that same scenario we14:04

discovered that the two observers on the trains could14:08

look at each other's watches and discover and work out the time14:12

we've been deleted. The time was moving slower symmetrically in14:16

the two things. That doesn't isn't a problem14:20

here.14:25

We're looking at two people with two clocks arriving at the same14:27

time, and that, and those two clocks they arrive at the same14:31

point at the same time. They can't both be both.14:34

What? What one can't be behind14:38

and ahead of the of the other that that can happen14:41

because you're talking about two things are happening to14:44

temptation happen at the same place at the same time14:47

because we are talking about the time dilation in the trades14:50

moving past each other scenario.14:54

There,14:57

the observations being made are are, if you go through it14:59

carefully, be observations of different clocks15:03

at15:07

at different times.15:09

So you're making a statement about the passage of time in the15:11

other frame, as opposed to making a statement with passing15:14

time on a particular clock. OK,15:17

that's a point. That's the point which is important, but which15:20

bears a second thought. So, so we through the notes, read15:22

through notes on this.15:25

So what's happening here that this seems to be just wrong?15:27

That there seems to be a paradox, I think, which can't be15:31

true here.15:33

And this has caused us see this has caused people who were15:35

professionally engaged in thinking about relativity to say15:38

overall, who must be wrong, Oh my God, what's happening here.15:41

That there is a deep problem. It's not, because15:45

the thing that we haven't15:49

stressed is that15:52

Odysseus Penelope are not vague about who's been out and who's15:55

turned back there. The situation is not symmetric because only15:59

one of them has turned around16:04

at the remote star.16:06

In order to go and come back,16:09

Penelope had to go to half up to hospital right? And then slow16:11

down and then and then turn round. So she is in no doubt16:14

that her who is slow would slow down and and and and and and and16:17

and and and and turned round.16:21

And that in a way16:24

breaks the resolve. The paradox the the the paradox of it comes16:26

because we think that the two observers are symmetric and so16:30

and so and so the whole time relation thing has to happen in16:33

the same way for both of them. It doesn't, because only one of16:37

them16:40

to actually turns around. There's no. There's no ambiguity16:41

there.16:44

And16:46

another way you can think of this.16:48

Well, so, so, so the the and the key point here is that there is16:50

no inertial frame that Penelope stays in throughout the entire16:53

adventure.16:59

Odysseus is standing still in his inertial frame and stays in16:60

that inertial frame the entire time. But now P is an inertial17:04

frame on the outward journey17:08

and in an inertial frame on the inward journey. But they're not17:10

the same inertial frame. And that's where in a sense, the17:14

problem fails to appear.17:18

And you don't even have to worry about the the slowing down and17:21

turning round. Because what we could do17:25

is would you guess to the star she knows there's someone is17:28

heading inward back toward earth at the same speed you17:32

conveniently And she and she says, OK, here's my log book17:35

could you take that back to Earth or this is the time17:40

showing my clock You have to send a radio wave or something17:42

to see this time a mic lock. Can you reset your clock to this and17:45

keep track of how much time there?17:48

So the fact that there are three inertial frames happening here17:50

is for Brexit, Brexit. There's symmetry. Another way we can see17:54

that17:57

is by17:59

if we're looking at the relevant Minkowski diagrams.18:01

So18:07

I'm not sure what the.18:20

I'm not sure which one of these is the one that is18:24

right. I think that's the one that appears on18:28

what do you call it E360 rather than this one. So not on that18:33

basis, that's one will be recorded in the OHH, just just18:36

parenthetically. And the other thing I want to mention,18:39

which I think I did mention in posting, is that the18:44

sound recordings of these lectures are available in two18:48

places, 1 via E360 and there is a link from the Moodle page to18:51

that collection and also my own recordings. The other ones are18:55

also available at a podcast linked to there. I think the18:60

the equity 60 ones have video attached to them. You know of19:04

the slides or or or this. I think the my ones are better19:07

audio quality because I don't really know which microphone19:11

that was supposed to be using. So whichever one works for you19:14

is fine. They have the same content. I would be interested19:17

in any problems with either either of them. So I'd be19:20

interested if you which one works, because if the 61 works19:23

fine then I didn't bother making my my own recordings19:27

anyway. So I believe the the the the pad19:30

is19:36

is that vegetable? Yes, yes Good. OK,19:39

so in the course diagram there is.19:44

Odysseus is free19:50

X&T19:52

and Jesus goes from19:54

origin where the the two twins separate.19:56

To the endpoint, just straight that world. His water line is20:00

along there. Nice and simple very simple. Water line stage at20:03

equal 0 as time moves on. So that's the sequence of points20:07

that that creates the world. Like20:10

Penelope heads off20:15

in this sort of direction,20:18

so her20:20

if we draw her.20:22

So that's the world line. Hope not the world line.20:26

And if we if she's stationary in her frame the the prime frame,20:31

then she is moving along the T frame axis of her frame.20:35

Nice and simple. And so that's what the the the the the mycotic20:40

diagram of her frame on.20:45

On the20:51

Ohh, this is free. Looks like20:55

we get to that that that's I think let's call that event one20:59

when she does the turn around.21:03

OK.21:06

And at this point21:07

she entered a different frame,21:10

should change his frame into A-frame which is not moving in21:13

that direction to hospital light, but moving in that21:16

direction hospital light. How do we draw that on the screen21:18

diagram we draw? Our world line looks like this21:21

in the in the in the in the frame. So she's moving at a21:27

constant speed in the negative X direction. As time goes21:30

increases, she's moving the negative X direction. So in that21:34

other frame that's the T double framed21:37

frame and there will be a a21:40

X double primed axis there. But the the right21:47

now21:54

one thing. So I I what I'm getting at here is that21:55

I have sort of resolved the paradox by seeing that she22:00

changes streams and that they're not symmetric. What I'm doing22:03

now is is is trying to give you a bit of a clue to where this22:06

extra time went.22:09

Why is it that there's thirteen years or whatever? It is22:10

certainly missing from Penelope or from only one of the two22:13

other participants.22:16

So at the point where she turns around,22:18

that time there is simultaneous22:23

in Penelope's freedom22:28

with an event which happens22:30

atrocious at event two.22:35

Why have I drawn it at that angle? Because that's parallel22:37

with X prime axis. The X prime axis is the22:41

the collection of events which all happened at T frame equals22:45

0.22:48

OK,22:50

so if I were to draw the22:51

diagram22:56

X primed, T primed.22:58

All of the events which happened along the extreme axis happened23:01

at frame equals 0. All the events which happen along a line23:05

parallel to the extreme axis happen at the same23:08

with the same T frame.23:12

So there23:14

the events which happen23:15

event one and two23:18

because the panels the extreme actually happened the same T23:21

frame, so they are simultaneous in penelope's frame23:23

but not simultaneous in23:27

or disease free.23:30

And then in the new frame the Penelope jumped to23:32

the X prime. X double prime axis23:37

comes along here and through the event 323:41

which is simultaneous with event one in Penelope's new frame.23:45

So event one,23:50

it's simultaneous with event 280 Penelopes Outward Bound frame23:52

and simultaneous with event three in her inbound frame.23:55

And so that's sort of where some of the times gone missing, if23:60

you're looking for where's the time gone, missing where the 1324:02

years gone, it's sort of there.24:05

If you I'll be thinking about this24:07

is if every birthday24:10

Odysseus sent out a happy birthday message to his his twin24:14

sister.24:18

Then they would these by radio, and these ***** greetings24:19

would be sent out at regular intervals at the funeral, 8:00,24:25

so at 45 degrees,24:29

and would24:31

but the same benefits halfway there. She's only receiving the24:36

***** greetings from the first half24:40

or just 100 years24:43

so. So from her point of view they appear to be slow, they to24:48

be to be to be late24:52

on the way back. However24:55

I you have to sort of think I think this through is not24:59

completely obvious. Audacity is still sending austerity at25:02

regular intervals, but on the way back25:05

to help you seeing them at faster25:08

than than than once a year.25:10

So she sees the busted busted meetings being slower than once25:13

a year on the way out, and see the buffering being faster than25:16

once a year on the way on the way in.25:20

So you're still seeing a hundred of them,25:24

but they don't add up to 100 of her years. The I haven't shown25:26

that that that nod not adding up on the on the diagram, but this25:30

is the way you can think about how the different perceptions of25:33

the passage of time go in addition to frame and penalties.25:37

If that last bit doesn't make a lot of sense, don't worry, I25:41

think I mentioned it in the notes. This is the. The point25:45

here is just that I'm25:48

showing that you that again building up a rather messy,25:51

rather complicated and costly diagram step by step.25:53

I'm sort of want to trying to suggest you where the25:57

with the. With the extra missing years have gone.26:01

I could keep talking about that,26:06

of course, more or less indefinitely. But26:08

other other things that you know this requires you know, going26:10

and thinking about the things that are puzzling right off the26:13

top of your head.26:16

What things you're holding a little bit shell shocked26:18

or or or big size or or or or something are the things that26:22

our seem obviously amiss.26:28

Walk it through again you hate ohh yeah question.26:34

Just wondering from the diagram as when the26:36

like back and forth, are they meant to be a specific angle26:40

relative to there are 45 degrees, OK, but they're all26:43

radio signals so so they tried to speak light which is 1 light26:46

metre per metre. So, yes, they're all 45 degrees.26:49

Yeah.26:54

Yes, that that's not, I think, completely differently. That26:55

would be clearer27:00

question. This double prime of X double prime frame, is that like27:03

that's some that's the fear of the way back. I'll be back,27:08

yeah. And it's the point it starts at is like when they turn27:11

around. That's right. Yes. So that's a good point. Yes. So. So27:14

if the frames if the frame S and frame S primed are in standard27:17

configuration,27:21

frame double frame is not in standard configuration with27:22

others, because why? What? What's? What is it that makes it27:25

not in standard configuration?27:29

Yes,27:33

so the the origins of of of of the of S&S prime coincide27:34

at at the origin. The origin of the of's double prime, which is27:40

is. It is event one which is doesn't coincide with anything.27:44

So you could you could use the range transformation to get from27:48

frame to frame S prime,27:52

but you could not without further algebra,27:54

you the rest transformation to get naively from frame XS primed27:57

to double framed because they're understanding figure.27:60

That's a very good point.28:04

OK.28:08

And the other diagram drawn somewhat28:11

politically,28:14

it's in the note.28:23

The other point is worth mentioning here28:27

is that28:29

the dog leg in the original Mediterranean version, Penelope28:31

Odysseus in this version is clearly takes a longer route28:34

because he goes a dog leg root and as we all know, a straight28:38

line, the shortest distance between two points.28:41

We all know that, don't we?28:45

But this is a good point to28:47

mention28:50

that28:52

in the in the geometry of the28:53

of Minkowski space,28:56

a straight line is the longest distance between two points,28:58

It turns out29:02

and there's an exercise in the. One of the exercises in attached29:04

to this section allows you to work through that and and and29:07

and part reassure yourself that that that that that particular29:11

case. So in the Makovsky space, with the right intuition29:15

it. Well, I don't know whether intuition but at some point it29:20

will become it becomes obvious that a dog like group is going29:23

to be shorter because it's not the straight line.29:26

OK29:31

and and I I emphasise that when I talk about the exercises, I29:33

mean the exercises attached to to to to to these notes which29:36

are in the direction notes folder. The tutorial handbook29:40

has exercised attached relativity. They are good29:43

exercises29:46

going through those, but not tightly keyed particular29:48

sections as my exercises are. So just to avoid ambiguity there.29:51

OK, moving on29:56

the other famous29:58

and30:01

I would draw that. I'll blow that up. The other famous30:03

paradox is the Polebarn paradox, or the ladder in the barn30:08

paradox, or rather the variance of that. And you have a barn30:12

which is 10 metres30:18

in length.30:20

Are you a farmer?30:22

The pool which is 20 metres in length30:23

and the agile young farmer who would run at speed where gamma30:27

is 2.30:32

So the farmer is running through the farm30:34

at whatever that's a .86 of the speed of light. Gamma is 2 and30:37

so the pole is length contracted from 20 metres to 10 metres.30:42

So getting into the, into the, into the barn, the farmer's wife30:47

slammed the door shut and to the poles entirely inside the barn30:51

because length contracted30:55

with athletic and all that. But you're sort of familiar with30:58

that idea from other things about land contracts.31:01

But then you look at it from the point of view of the farmer31:05

running.31:09

In the farmer stream,31:10

the farm is moving at .863 late in the direction, so the pole.31:12

So the barn now has its length contracted from 10 metres to31:16

five metres.31:21

So it's ridiculous to suggest that the pool is going to be31:22

able to get into the barn because it's 20 metres long in31:25

the farmer frame and the barn 25 metres long in in in that frame.31:28

So what's happening? Does the poor get into the barn31:32

or not?31:35

So you see the problem.31:38

What do we how do we draw that31:41

in Minkowski diagram?31:44

Let's have31:49

the31:51

so I'm not31:56

and the world lines of the front and back of the barn31:58

are32:04

nice and simple because the barn isn't moving in the barn stream.32:05

The barn isn't moving in the barnyard32:09

so the the world lines are nice and simple. The the front of the32:12

barn so the the the the pole is going to be going in this32:15

direction in front of the barn.32:17

It lined up along the keyframe access, but we assume that it32:21

could be at X = 0, the back of the barn. Another nice simple32:24

water line.32:28

OK,32:30

now let's have the water lines of the32:32

of of the front and back of the pool in the running through32:38

that.32:41

Let's have the word line of the back of the pole, something like32:43

that.32:46

And that's the back of the pool. And we've chosen our origins so32:48

that the32:53

at time equals 0. The back of the pole is at the front of the32:55

barn.33:00

OK,33:01

so this is back in the pool. This is the33:03

front of the barn,33:07

at the back of the barn,33:09

and we're the world line of the33:12

front33:17

of of the poll. In this case, well, it's going to be at A33:18

and33:23

it's going to be moving at the same speed at the back of the33:24

pool, so it could be at the same angle. So it'll be a line33:27

more like that33:31

and I'm going to sort of33:33

but by thinking through the consequences of this I, I, I, I33:36

know that it we're going to be talking this be length33:39

contracted. So I'm going to draw it at an angle somewhat like33:42

this, like this,33:45

and uh,33:51

no, not not. No, I'm not.33:57

You know that33:59

the way this works out34:01

somewhat like that,34:04

so that's the34:06

front of the pool.34:07

So this is going to be our prime axis.34:10

So it means our X prime axis is at the same angle in the other34:13

direction.34:17

And this is a Makovsky diagram drawn for the right speed. How34:19

do I know that? Because in this diagram34:24

the34:28

the pool fits exactly into34:30

the the barn. So the angles aren't right for for for for34:33

that speed and and and and that gamma. But the the the the the34:36

relationship is right. So this this shows34:40

the case where the34:43

pull it length contracted34:47

to just the right length of the barn.34:49

What does it mean to say the pool is then contracted to the34:54

right side of the barn? What What it means it's when we34:56

measure the length of the pole, it comes out to be the same34:59

length of the bar.35:02

What does when we measure the length of the pool mean? It35:03

means having two observations of the front and the back of the35:07

pole at the same time in the farmyard frame. In other words,35:11

at the same time t = 0 in the farmyard frame, there's an35:15

observation of the back of the pole being at the front of the35:18

barn, and at the same time an observation of the front of the35:22

pole35:26

be at the back of the barn35:27

and they are simultaneous in that frame. Therefore that is35:29

the length of the pole in that frame. So when we talk about35:32

length contraction, what we mean is when you do that sort of35:36

observation, when you measure the length of the moving object35:39

by that means you get35:43

that distance, the separation between those two worlds being35:45

the same with the length of the pool.35:48

But35:51

notice35:53

that in the farmer stream,35:55

who's the farmers is stationary moving along the the T frame36:00

axis. So for the farmer I'm covered for these chalk. For the36:04

farmer,36:08

lines parallel to the X prime axis are at the same T prime36:09

coordinate.36:14

So for the farmer, the event there of the front of the pole36:17

hidden in the back of the barn36:21

happened36:24

had a negative tapering.36:26

So the back of the pole hitting reaching the front of the barn36:28

happened at time T frame equals zero36:32

happened at the origin that we will set this up.36:34

But that event there happened at negative press,36:37

so it's already happened36:40

by the time this the back of the back of the pool reaches the36:42

front of the barn.36:46

So for the so those two events that we the separation which was36:48

our length of the pole in the form in the form of frame,36:52

I don't do each other36:58

and from the point of view of the farmer36:59

because this event happened before. So, so the point where37:02

the farmer very reasonably37:04

from their point of view the back of the port,37:07

the front of the pool rather were beyond37:10

the back at the back of the barn at the time when the back of the37:13

pool37:17

was.37:18

So that that's that that event there is simultaneous in the37:20

farmer's frame with that event there and that event there is37:23

happening beyond the back of the of the barn.37:26

So that makes sense from the farmers point of view37:30

because at the point where the37:33

back with the pool hits the front of the beaches, the front37:36

of the barn,37:39

the front of the of the pool is well beyond the back of the37:40

barn, as it should be of course, because it's longer than the37:42

barn.37:44

So the so the, the the, the the the. Paradox disappears when you37:46

think carefully about what kinds of simultaneous.37:50

And when you37:53

are talking about the length of something, you are implicitly37:55

talking about simultaneous events, because that's what we37:58

mean. When we talk about the length of something and we talk38:01

about simultaneous events then that's A-frame dependent thing.38:04

So if ever you are looking at our a description of relative38:08

doesn't make sense because38:12

online or whatever38:15

what you look for to see why someone has confused themselves38:17

is we have the implicitly thought, so we're the implicitly38:21

thought. Something, I thought Simpson 80 doesn't actually38:24

apply38:27

civil society. That is where it all breaks down in in the38:29

and we can draw that38:34

paper. Actually38:37

yeah38:40

that's that threat thing just drew and that's the38:42

the same the same scenario drawn in the38:45

farmers stream where38:50

going to there and the event of the is very clear that the event38:53

of the front of the pole hitting the back of the barn happens at38:57

keyframe negative it's already happened but the same the back39:03

the back of the pool hits the front of the.39:06

Another way you can think about this39:11

is that if you were to try that, if if there's bound didn't have39:14

had a, you would vote against a a mountain or something. So39:20

there's a solid back wall. So the whole thing is just 10, you39:24

know, 10 metres, then rock,39:28

then what would happen? Then39:31

the poor can go beyond the end at the end of the the the the39:35

the end of the barn.39:37

In that case the front of the pole would hit the back of the39:39

barn and would stop. Say it's an immovable mount or some,39:43

but the back of the pool doesn't know that's happened yet because39:48

the information39:51

that the front of the pool has stopped39:53

has to get to the back of the pool39:56

by a shockwave.39:58

Which can travel faster? The speed of light.40:01

You work this all out the information. Even if the the40:04

shockwave were to travel through all the atoms in the in the pool40:07

at the speed of light, it couldn't get to the back of the40:11

poll before the40:15

back of the of the of the pole got into the barn.40:16

So that's two different explanations of why this all40:20

makes sense.40:22

And that's also an important point, because in the two40:24

different frames,40:26

the two sets of observers have different physical explanations40:28

of what's going on in terms of what the sequence of events is,40:32

what the physical things are happening are. But they have to40:35

come to the same overall conclusions in terms of things,40:39

of what things happen at the same place at the same time.40:42

With that introduction from me, it's probably a good idea, as I40:49

say, to go through that step by step in the notes. Just let40:52

Reese resettle.40:55

We've we've ploughed the ground40:56

again. Other puzzles that are immediate there.40:60

The other clever, you know, insightful, thoughtful, or just41:06

frankly baffles questions.41:10

All good.41:12

OK,41:14

that there is a lot of stick in there.41:17

The last thing I would mention I'm not going to go through in41:19

much detail is Belle's Spaceship Paradox.41:23

And John Bell was a41:27

you looked at sound for most of his working life. He was very41:32

thoughtful about quantum mechanics and other other things41:36

that you know of varieties. And the let's talk about John Bell41:39

this, he raised this this puddle in the CERN canteen one time41:44

and and said ohh, what would happen? And there's a big41:49

argument and the majority of the question go whatever be the41:52

wrong answer. So this confused them.41:55

They're only particle physicists, but yeah,41:57

two spaceships42:02

to to to rocket launchpads A kilometre apart.42:04

The spaceships take off and head off along the X axis with the42:09

same42:14

navigation programme42:16

for the accelerate in the same way.42:18

The engines are designed to prove the right mouth thrust and42:20

they celebrate in the same in the same way, so they follow42:23

the same trajectory, just displaced A kilometre42:27

don't range,42:32

so the speed up after a rough for short time, roughly after42:35

after quite a short time the good it doesn't take a lot of42:39

time going at sea accelerating about G to get up to fraction of42:43

the speed of light. It remarkably short time it takes42:47

to work it out, but42:51

to the moving at Russell's speed at some point,42:53

so that's fine.42:57

Before they take off, we attach a bit of string to the two of42:60

them.43:02

One kilometre long piece of string,43:03

the kickoff and the the move along move rustic speed. So43:05

after after a point, this string is moving at a realistic speed,43:09

so at length contracts,43:16

so it can no longer stretch between the two rockets.43:18

So it's not43:22

fairly obvious,43:24

but43:26

in the rocket stream43:28

they're stationary43:31

and the length of string is kilometre long and they're43:34

kilometre apart, so the43:38

there's no problem43:41

so the string wouldn't snap. But there's another case where you43:42

could have the same answer in both frames. Either string snaps43:46

and it destroyed and the bits of string of fragments of string43:50

flying around or it doesn't snap. So which is it?43:54

And as I say this caused an argument in the quarantine and43:59

some people go the wrong conclusion44:02

and we44:05

the the place where I have up where I went wrong in telling44:07

you that story44:11

the place where44:13

you should have got ah you know you've jumped a step there44:16

the police were I smuggled in something when I said44:20

in the rocket stream44:25

in seeing in the rocket stream there's still a kilometre apart44:28

assumes that there is a rocket stream. But is there.44:32

This is the main coffee diagram of of the two trajectories of of44:44

the new rockets R1 and R244:48

and P144:50

is44:52

this one year anniversary party44:53

of the people in the rocket the the one year out from earth and44:55

they have a a celebration45:00

and the45:04

but in their frame at that point45:08

they are moving in in that direction with tangent to the45:11

the the water lane. So in their frame and that frame also45:14

instant configuration with respect to,45:18

that's their cheaper time and that's their extreme axis.45:20

But45:24

look at what they're telling us. It's telling us that the event45:25

which is simultaneous in their frame45:30

with the one your party P1 is not P245:34

but P3.45:39

In other words, it's an event which happens later on,45:43

after the one year party in the other rockets frame,45:47

at which point the rocket will have, you know, moved, moved45:51

further,45:54

so45:56

P1 and P2.45:57

Those two events are simultaneous in the45:59

launchpad stream46:04

and so because of these trajectories are the same, they46:06

will be a kilometre apart.46:09

But the46:12

the46:17

events P1 and P3 are further apart than that,46:18

more than a kilometre apart to the street and the string if46:22

it's to be simultaneously at this at this46:26

when your party and it and it P3 is having to stretch more than a46:30

kilometre. So it breaks.46:34

And I give a couple of other things explanation of how you46:37

can think about this in the notes. But the point is there46:41

isn't A-frame46:44

where P1 and P2 which are simultaneous in the Earth frame46:46

where they are simultaneous in the rocket stream.46:50

So there isn't our frame,46:55

which is the rocket string.46:57

There are those all the way along that that that water lane.46:59

There's a sequence of of frames47:04

which, because the Rockets are accelerating, are not all In47:07

Sync configuration with respect to each other. And there's an47:10

infinite number of frames there you're talking about. And so47:12

there isn't one where the47:15

rocket,47:17

which is the rocket frame, where the two vans are still 147:18

kilometre apart,47:22

that also needs going through, again settling down in your in47:26

your head. And I think that's one of the cases where the47:29

utility Makovsky diagram in getting things straight in your47:33

head on paper is, is cleanest because this is a really47:36

perplexing thing. And of course, time lets you write, draw it,47:39

draw it down.47:43

That's the end of Chapter 5. We'll go on to Chapter 647:46

kinematics next time, which I think is tomorrow. I will get47:49

the notes up this afternoon and I will see you then.47:53